I recently switched to T200 irons after playing png for the last 35 years. I have always played green dot ( 2 Degrees up) on my Pings but went with standard lie after getting a Titleist fitting. The T200’s are not only gorgeous they have a great ball flight they have no problem stopping on the greens. As of today I have a split bag with Titleist irons and png woods with no gaps. I wasn’t sure I was good enough to play Titleist but these T200 made this 10 handicap a very happy man. Good job Titleist.